Alternative to dairy?

[ccarlso]

Hi,

After speaking with my acupuncturist and reading a lot about diet and p., I am going to begin making some gradual changes to my diet. I was wondering if goat's milk, cheese, and yogurt are okay for p. I know that dairy is bad, but I was hoping these would be an alternative. I am breastfeeding, so I need to make sure I get enough calories. I know soy milk is another alternative. What alternatives have others found?

[ouchyk]

rice milk. Almond milk....if I can think of anymore I will be back.

I'm not bothered by dairy, I just don't like milk. I have read ( here ) that some will enjoy soft cheeses.

Perhaps you can up your vit D while you breastfeed?

Hope some dairy free moms will answer you soon. please make sure you talk to your childs pedi to insure that your lil one is getting the proper nutrients.

My sister in law is ALLERGIC to dairy, not intolerant a huge allergy I'd like to tell you that my nephew is a happy, healthy young man now and didn't suffer due to his mom's allergy and she breast fed too.... so it can be done...

Take care,
Karen

[alli]

I found a list that might be of aid


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Non-Dairy Substitutes / Dairy Alternatives
The following dairy alternatives / non-dairy substitutes are increasingly available from health shops and some supermarkets :

Soya milk, Rice Dream, and oat milk drink. Soya milk drinks are also available flavoured with strawberry or chocolate and rice milk drinks are available in some flavours. Rice milk, although sweet, contains no added sugar.

Soya cheese, both in hard and soft forms is available and also tofu cheese. Soya soft cheese and Veeze cheese spread can be used like Dairylea. Toffutti is a good cream cheese alternative, and cheese slices are now available.

Soya yoghurts make an excellent snack. They come in many flavours and are sweetened with fruit juice. Many soya yoghurts and desserts have a long shelf life and do not need refrigerating, making them ideal to keep in the drawer at work. Live soya yoghurts containing beneficial cultures are now available from some supermarkets. These are fresh, and so kept in the chilled cabinets with other fresh yoghurts.

For desserts, use soya cream, soyasun desserts, soya ice cream and soya vanilla dessert (great substitute for custard) and other Provomel deserts.

Yeast flakes can be delicious sprinkled onto dishes or on toast, giving quite a cheesy taste and lots of B vitamins. Not suitable for a yeast free diet though.

For sandwich fillers and toppings, use avocado, humus, tahini (mix 1 tablespoon of tahini in water and lemon juice until creamy), salads, guacamole, unhydrogenated vegetable margerines such as Pure, Vitquel, Vitaseig, and Suma.

You can make your own nut milk by blending almonds in a food processor with water until smooth. Adjust the consistency as required.
If you are avoiding dairy foods, it is wise to avoid goats and sheeps milk products, unless you have been otherwise advised during your consultation with a qualified Nutritionist.

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Hope that helps!!

[subtlecheetah]

Dairy makes the P worse for some people, but not all, it depends on the individual. My stepmom (who doesn't have P) and I are both allergic to cow's dairy; however both sheep and goat cheese are fine with us. Sheep and goat dairy protein is more similar to human milk protein than is the protein called casein in cow's milk. Sheep dairy has a more mild taste than goat dairy and might be a good starting point.

[nina2002nina]

I use Rice Milk and "DariFree" non dairy milk alternative (Potato Milk). The Potato Milk has the texture of skim milk, but it is sweeter. It comes in a powder and you mix it with water. The powder has a nice smell -kind of reminds me of cake mix. Both Rice Milk and Potato Milk have just as much calcium as milk and no steroids, hormones etc.... Of course you need to check with Doc to make sure you are getting what you and baby need. I know some use and like Almond Milk. We tried it when my son first went on a diet, but we didn't care for the taste or texture or something (so long ago).

We don't use Soy milk. I am not sure if this applies to all dieting for P, but my son (no psoriasis yet-he is dieting for different reasons) can't have soy because it is molecularly (spell?) similar to the protein in cows milk. This means the Soy milk will have similar effects on him like Cow's milk. I also can't have any Soy, but that is because I took a Food Intolerance test and I was intolerant to Soy. I was also intolerant to Eggs, Gluten and slightly to Milk. I was originally just Gluten and Milk free and my PPPP was clearing, but when I got rid of the Soy and Eggs the improvements were even greater. This may not apply to everyone.

I don't know about Goat's milk, but I think it would be similar to Cow's milk. Cheese and Yogurt have milk so if your going to get rid of milk you would have to get rid of cheese and yogurt. They may have some soy and rice variations of cheese at Whole Foods, but I didn't find them to taste that good and now I am off the Soy anyway.

I also give my son Calcium Supplements (Gosh I should be taking them too). I had to give him the supplement because once he gave up the bottle he refused to drink any milk from a cup and he can't have cheese or yogurt etc.... I get "Calcium with Vitamin D Unflavored Powder" from Kirkman labs (hypoallergenic-over the internet).

Hope this helps.

[DottieD]

I wonder why you have concluded, "I know that dairy is bad." The reason I mention this is that if you are not lactose intolerant, dairy may not be that bad if you choose the right foods.

Psoriasis is an inflammatory disorder where our bodies make cytokines that cause our skin cells to multiply too fast. One of these troublesome cytokines is prostaglandin (PG)-E2. Some of the white cells in our skin produce PG-E2, then over time it is broken down by enzymes in our bodies.

Milk fat is partly composed of a fatty acid called palmitic acid. (This is also present in palm oil and coconut oil.) According to The Clear Skin Diet, a book co-authored by Dr. Treloar, a speaker at the NPF meeting, palmitic acid has been shown to interfere with the enzyme that noramlly breaks down PG-E2. So this inflammatory cytokine stays in our body a longer time to do its damage.

According to Nutritiondata.com, a cup of whole milk has about 2,000 mg of palmitic acid in it, but skim milk has only 60. It's the milk FAT that causes an inflammatory problem, not the rest of the milk. Thus, if inflammation is what you're trying to minimize, you could drink skim milk or use skim milk for cereal or cooking. You could eat fat-free yogurt or fat-free cottage cheese, and even eat some frozen yogurts.

Hope this helps,
DottieD

[nina2002nina]

This may not be important to all, but I just found out that all the Almond Milk on the market today has soy in it. This may be helpful to those avoiding Soy.


Have a good day all!

[ouchyk]

This may not be important to all, but I just found out that all the Almond Milk on the market today has soy in it. This may be helpful to those avoiding Soy.


Have a good day all!

You can make your own almond milk if one cannot be found without soy.

http://www.paleofood.com/nmilks.htm

Can't imagine any mother with a young child would have the time to do this though!

Thanks for the information Dottie. When I was pregnant I had to eat tums for calcium - that's how much I detested milk. This after my ob asked me to put the milk in the freezer, put chocolate in it and drink it, I even tried holding my nose....still gagged. I get goosebumps writing about it..I do like cheeses, yogurt, cottage cheese any milk product not in it's natural state I guess! lol.

[ccarlso]

Thanks for all for your responses. I'm happy to know that there are lots of alternatives! I checked with my acupuncturist, and she informed me that cow's milk appears to have an effect on p., but that goat's milk is okay.